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Post by GabeXVX on Oct 6, 2010 20:51:16 GMT -5
I think Converge is pretty damn good, but Hatebreed's material in the past decade has been ridiculously bad. Satisfaction is pretty solid, but I still maintain they are overrated, especially considering how much they went to shit.
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Post by always on Oct 6, 2010 21:00:59 GMT -5
Personal opinion, just could never get into them. I respect Jacob Bannon as a lyricist and for what he's done with deathwish but just never liked their music.
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Post by matts on Oct 6, 2010 21:01:55 GMT -5
Saying that the presence of mediocrity in some late-stage material negates tremendous achievement is ignorant.
You're right, dude! Mark Twain sucks because A Horse's Tale isn't his best work! Give me a break, guy.
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Post by always on Oct 6, 2010 21:13:42 GMT -5
I don't know about you but I feel music plays a big roll in whether I like a band or not. And for me, Converge just isn't my thing.
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Post by GabeXVX on Oct 6, 2010 21:22:32 GMT -5
For starters, their ratio of bad to good is significantly skewed. I also drew from the title of "worst band in hardcore" to be talking about bands today. If we were talking about "worst hardcore bands ever", I would not include their name in the discussion. As for the people who strongly dislike Hatebreed even their early material, that's their prerogative. Hardcore is a many-headed beast, the head that spawned Hatebreed might not be everyone's favorite head.
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Post by jakes on Oct 6, 2010 21:39:57 GMT -5
Personal opinion, just could never get into them. I respect Jacob Bannon as a lyricist and for what he's done with deathwish but just never liked their music. Not liking them is ok. Worst band in hardcore? Not even close.
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Post by Sebastian on Oct 6, 2010 21:48:23 GMT -5
wow, Converge haters?
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Post by always on Oct 6, 2010 23:37:16 GMT -5
Personal opinion, just could never get into them. I respect Jacob Bannon as a lyricist and for what he's done with deathwish but just never liked their music. Not liking them is ok. Worst band in hardcore? Not even close. Alright, I should rephrase myself. I hate Cruel Hand and I dislike Converge.
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Post by mayorga on Oct 7, 2010 0:01:30 GMT -5
Hatebreed just seemed like a by the numbers band. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of modern hardcore, and I haven't listened to every band. Hatebreed are just the worst I've heard.
I think some of you are taking this too personally.
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Post by always on Oct 7, 2010 0:12:27 GMT -5
Hatebreed just seemed like a by the numbers band. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of modern hardcore, and I haven't listened to every band. Hatebreed are just the worst I've heard. I think some of you are taking this too personally. Yeah, just cause people don't like a band you like it shouldn't really matter.
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Post by mayorga on Oct 7, 2010 3:25:52 GMT -5
Hatebreed just seemed like a by the numbers band. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of modern hardcore, and I haven't listened to every band. Hatebreed are just the worst I've heard. I think some of you are taking this too personally. Yeah, just cause people don't like a band you like it shouldn't really matter. People act like it's a life or death scenario. It's kind of funny.
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Post by Chicago, Illinois on Oct 7, 2010 4:33:17 GMT -5
i'll never get why so many people can't handle the idea that someone would hate converge.
also, jacob bannon is criminally overrated as an artist. if you have seen more than one piece of his artwork, he is boring.
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Post by george costanza on Oct 7, 2010 6:23:02 GMT -5
oh mi god! you dont like the same music i do!
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Post by Chicago, Illinois on Oct 7, 2010 6:44:39 GMT -5
geoff greene hates pretentious people.
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Post by bloody vengeance on Oct 7, 2010 8:18:09 GMT -5
i cant get into hatebreed either. total gorilla juicehead vibe. not into it
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Post by jakes on Oct 7, 2010 8:47:17 GMT -5
Guys, were not talking about whether you like a band or not. I don't give a shit what you like. I feel that liking or disliking a band is completely different from saying a band is "the worst band in hardcore" though.
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Post by bloody vengeance on Oct 7, 2010 8:59:18 GMT -5
how else would you quantify "worst" if not by personal feelings on their music then? bad influence? sketchy/shitty dudes? exploitation/knockoff/major label cashins?
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Post by Chicago, Illinois on Oct 7, 2010 9:32:49 GMT -5
total package really. although your personal taste does come into play.
and for the record, i'm not agreeing that converge is the "worst band," i'm just pointing out that people tend to freak out when they learn someone's not into them.
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Post by hallofpain on Oct 7, 2010 9:43:47 GMT -5
i think ceremony are pretty bad / overrated.
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Post by jimpubes on Oct 7, 2010 9:48:32 GMT -5
i dont know who xiabla, title fight, Stick Together or nothing to nothing, but i like pretty much every other band mentioned in this thread. drag. i could do without backtrack i guess. and the new cruel hand sorta sucks, but the first LP is so good. and i mean, trapped under ice- come on. thats like picking on the kid with the giant forehead and tiny eyes because even though he's really awesome at tetherball he sucks at chess. just live him alone, he's SO GOOD at tetherball! and sometimes you just wanna play some tetherball.
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Post by carlweathers on Oct 7, 2010 10:17:07 GMT -5
i like stick together i wish more bands would play hardcore like this instead of riding the biohazard dick... come on dudes in bands you're skinny white kids from the suburbs you're not hard
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Post by hallofpain on Oct 7, 2010 10:34:14 GMT -5
i dont know who xiabla, title fight, Stick Together or nothing to nothing, but i like pretty much every other band mentioned in this thread. drag. i could do without backtrack i guess. and the new cruel hand sorta sucks, but the first LP is so good. and i mean, trapped under ice- come on. thats like picking on the kid with the giant forehead and tiny eyes because even though he's really awesome at tetherball he sucks at chess. just live him alone, he's SO GOOD at tetherball! and sometimes you just wanna play some tetherball. i could not agree more with that analogy.
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Post by cannonballs on Oct 7, 2010 10:36:06 GMT -5
Glad I'm not the only one who was going to say Trapped Under Ice. I've never heard Backtrack, but people I know who like the "top 40 of hardcore"(nice, Jake) don't like them so it has to be miserable.
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Post by jimpubes on Oct 7, 2010 15:18:58 GMT -5
yo stay cold.
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Post by GabeXVX on Oct 7, 2010 15:23:43 GMT -5
i dont know who xiabla, title fight, Stick Together or nothing to nothing, but i like pretty much every other band mentioned in this thread. drag. i could do without backtrack i guess. and the new cruel hand sorta sucks, but the first LP is so good. and i mean, trapped under ice- come on. thats like picking on the kid with the giant forehead and tiny eyes because even though he's really awesome at tetherball he sucks at chess. just live him alone, he's SO GOOD at tetherball! and sometimes you just wanna play some tetherball. i could not agree more with that analogy. I guess I'm just not into athletics that much.
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